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A while back I “quoted” J. P. Moreland very casually that he went back-and-forth on the age of the earth. I came up with the proper quote:

It is unproductive to try to believe something beyond your grounds for believing it and dishonest to act as if you believe something more strongly than you do. Overbelief is not a virtue. For example, I am far from certain on many Christian beliefs I hold. I lean toward the view that the days of Genesis are vast periods of time and not literal twenty-four-hour periods. But about two days of the week I flip-flop and accept the literal view. Based on my study, I cannot convince myself either way, and I’m about sixty-forty in favor of the old-earth position. Other beliefs of mine have grown in certainty over the years—that God really exists, for example. We should be honest with ourselves about the strength of our various beliefs and work on strengthening them by considering the issues relevant to their acceptance.

– J. P. Moreland, Love Your God With All Your Mind, p. 107

This bears a distant resemblance to something I found by D. A. Carson (author’s emphasis):

Francis Schaeffer wrote a little book that I have often found useful in helping some Christians move beyond entrenched positions. That book was called Genesis in Space and Time. He asked, in effect, a simple question: What is the least that Genesis 1-11 must be saying for the rest of the Bible to cohere, for the rest of the Bible to make sense and be true? That is not the same as asking what is the most that one can reasonably infer from these chapters. Rather it is one particular application of the old analogia fidei argument: the appeal to “the analogy of the faith” as established by the rest of the Scriptures is one crucial way to let Scripture interpret Scripture.

Taken together, the wisdom of these sages heightens my interest in boundaries over answers. Here are some candidates off the top of my head:

1. Any explanation of the age of the universe must affirm the authority of Scripture.

2. Any explanation of the age of the universe must account for the fact that physical evidence exists that suggests an old universe.

3. Any explanation of the age of the universe must reconcile the testimony of Scripture with the physical evidence; neither fideistic nor naturalistic solutions will suffice.

That’s a start, but what I’m increasingly struck by is this: If both J. P. Moreland and D. A. Carson are slow to make ambitious, definitive claims about answers to the age of the universe, then who am I to do so?

I don’t even go by my initials!

Rethinking Creation #2

In my last post I wished for an even-handed approach to the various theories about reconciling science and the Genesis account. I found one. Vern Poythress’ Redeeming Science is available online as a free PDF.

I’ve read bits and pieces and this is a great book. Of the portions I did read, the material on “Mature Creation” was probably the most fascinating. For anyone who thinks that it would be deceptive of God to create the universe with the appearance of age, consider this: was it deceptive of Jesus to turn water into wine, given that wine requires an aging process? (It was also the best wine at the party, and from what I know about wine, the older, the better.) I confess I’ve had hangups about the “appearance of age” issue, but after reading the chapter on that subject, it’s not such a big deal to me.

A word about the author… here’s what Justin Taylor has to say about Dr. Poythress:

At first glance one might think that a professor of NT is not qualified to write a theological treatise on science. But Poythress is not your normal NT prof. This man gives a new meaning to the word “smart.” He majored in mathematics at CalTech, then went on to complete a Ph.D. in mathematics at Harvard. After teaching math for a year at Fresno State and studying linguistics and Bible translation at the Summer Institute of Linguistics, he went to Westminster Theological Seminary, where he earned an M.Div. and a Th.M. in apologetics. He then went on to get an M.Litt in NT from the University of Cambridge. Between the M.Div/Th.M. and the M.Litt, he taught linguistics at the Summer Institute of Linguistics. He then earned a Th.D. in NT from the University of Stellenbosch in South Africa. For those who are counting, that’s one bachelors degree, three masters, and two doctorates.

Oh, and I’ve been told that while he was at Harvard he memorized virtually all of the NT.

Rethinking Creation

Until the last couple of years, I was a lot like J. P. Moreland, who said something like, “Three days a week, I’m an old-earther. Three days a week, I’m a young-earther. The other day I don’t know what to think.”* Of late, however, I’ve been landing on the old-earth, Big-Bang, Hugh Ross-ish side of things more and more.

As I’ve stopped to think about why this is so, I’m not satisfied with the reasons I find. I think a combination of laziness and time-starvation has conspired to have me rely more on the credibility of the arguers (or at least, my perception thereof) than the content of the arguments. Let’s face it, the content of the arguments is going to take some time to digest and consider, so I’ll cut myself some slack on not having taken it all in. Still — I need to have better arguments than:

1. So-and-so said thus-and-such.
2. So-and-so seems to be a boob.
3. Therefore, thus-and-such is false.

In other words, I’ve fallen prey to the genetic fallacy with regard to creation issues.

Consider the Sources

On the other hand… there is wisdom to be exercised when considering one’s sources. Here are the general observations I have made:

The young-earth crowd seems given to irresponsible measures. It’s an anecdotal observation that I can’t really back up in depth or detail right now, but I hope to… I have the impression that Answers in Genesis/Ken Ham, et al, tend to “bully” people into their side of the ledger. Here’s one from Ken Ham’s blog:

Sadly, when Christians tell people they can believe in the Big Bang, they’re also in essence saying, “You don’t have to take God at his word.” Such compromises undermine the authority of God’s Word in our Western nations.

In addition, Answers in Genesis was asked, “What are the most compelling scientific evidences for a young earth?” Their answers were liberally peppered with dissatisfying features like appeals to “strong exegetical arguments” — that were never given. I don’t think I’m misrepresenting the article when I say that their article on “the most compelling scientific evidences for a young earth” is largely uncluttered by compelling scientific evidences for a young earth. You’ve got the link; you decide.

Here’s an example that came from a different source, The Berean Call, that is typical of what I’m thinking of. If this is the best the young-earth party can offer, it would seem its emperor has no clothes to wear in the marketplace of ideas.

The old-earth crowd seems to be characterized by more responsible discourse. Again, this is anecdotal, and the sometimes-notable exception to this point is Hugh Ross (I think he has demonstrated a tendency to push his points too far). But you’ve got a pantheon of minds I admire — from Moreland and Craig to Hodge and Warfield — saying that you can, indeed, postulate a Big Bang cosmology and remain true to Christian orthodoxy — including the view that all Scripture is inerrant.

Simple Facts

As I see it, there are two simple facts (in many parts) to consider:

1. The Genesis 1 account, taken at face value, sure seems to say we’re looking at a Sunday-to-Friday sort of schedule.

2. Looking around at the universe, you see things like star light coming from millions of light-years away. Moreover, that star light is telling a story of what has been happening for the last several million years.

There are probably more “simple facts” worth including here, but those are the two that make this a really tough question for me right from the get-go.

Next Steps

So what’s an intellectual follower of Christ with limited time and attention (who has an affinity for modest claims) to do? If I just ride on my perceptions of credibility, I’m back to the genetic fallacy and my deck is sort of stacked in favor of an old-earth conclusion. So I intend to study the exegetical and hermeneutical questions first. First up: did Moses intend the six days of the Genesis 1 account as a complete and literal chronology of creation? Would the original recipients of the Genesis 1 account have understood it that way? What should govern our interpretation of this account?

Somewhere after that, I hope to figure out what to do with issues of natural theology — like star light and other cosmological food for thought. Along the way, I guess I’ll need to assess the content of the claims made by YEC’s and OEC’s (young-earth creationists and old-earth creationists), and see if I can draw some useful conclusions there…

Any reactions? What would be most helpful to me is if anybody can point me to some YEC types who are more responsible in their argumentation than what I’ve seen out of Answers in Genesis (or if AiG has a more winsome side to it, I’d love to see it!)

* I don’t have a citation for this sloppy Moreland “quote,” but I think I heard it from Brett Kunkle when he was filling in for Greg Koukl on a Stand to Reason show a while back.

Update (June 27, 2007): I found the proper quote from Dr. Moreland, emphasis added:

It is unproductive to try to believe something beyond your grounds for believing it and dishonest to act as if you believe something more strongly than you do. Overbelief is not a virtue. For example, I am far from certain on many Christian beliefs I hold. I lean toward the view that the days of Genesis are vast periods of time and not literal twenty-four-hour periods. But about two days of the week I flip-flop and accept the literal view. Based on my study, I cannot convince myself either way, and I’m about sixty-forty in favor of the old-earth position. Other beliefs of mine have grown in certainty over the years—that God really exists, for example. We should be honest with ourselves about the strength of our various beliefs and work on strengthening them by considering the issues relevant to their acceptance.

– J. P. Moreland, Love Your God With All Your Mind, p. 107

Has John Piper Come Unglued?

Let me tell you about a most wonderful experience I had early Monday morning, March 19, 2007, a little after six o’clock. God actually spoke to me. There is no doubt that it was God. I heard the words in my head just as clearly as when a memory of a conversation passes across your consciousness. The words were in English, but they had about them an absolutely self-authenticating ring of truth. I know beyond the shadow of a doubt that God still speaks today.

—John Piper, The Morning I Heard the Voice of God

Read the article — the whole article — to get the answer to the question in my title.

What makes for a great Bible? Before you answer, though, here’s something to think about.

John Huss gave his life so the Bible would be proclaimed. John Wycliffe was posthumously condemned as a heretic for his belief that Everyman should have a Bible that he could read in his own language. Martin Luther established the “External Word” as one of the rallying points of the Reformation. No longer chained to a pulpit, God’s Word is handed out freely in no small number of sizes, shapes, and languages…

We are truly blessed to have the Word of God in a book.

Now — having said that — I love the ESV, but it just doesn’t seem to come in a good format. I’ve yet to see one that satisfies me, with the possible exception of my 6.2-point font “nanobible” that fits in my pocket (I don’t use it for study, but for portability). Actually — I take that back. The nanobible has the words of Christ in red. Yuck.

Anyway, since I posted on J. Mark Bertrand yesterday, and since the not-so-elderly Elder Lee registered his enthusiasm for a better ESV, I thought I’d ask the direct question:

What features in a Bible would make you buy it instantly?

It doesn’t have to be ESV… I’m thinking of production values. For me, the list goes something like this:

  • Single column
  • Wide outside margins
  • Cross-reference column on the inside margin (the binding side)
  • Pages that don’t let the next page show through
  • Opens up and lies flat
  • Four bookmark ribbons
  • Nice font (I love Minion Pro Opticals)
  • No inline commentary or maps
  • Extensive maps at the end of the codex
  • Concordance
  • Black letter text — none of this “words of Christ in red” nonsense

What say you?


Update: I just saw this post on the ESV blog: Justin Taylor Joins ESV Study Bible Team. Quoting: “Prior to joining Crossway, Justin was the Director of Theology and Executive Editor at Desiring God.” This is great news to me; even though I’m partial to non-study Bibles (as my list suggests), I have great respect for Mr. Taylor. You may have noticed the “hat tips” to him (FYI, that’s what the little “HT” postscript stands for) in many of my asides — he has a must-read blog at Between Two Worlds.